Home » Forums » IC Support Forum » General Health
Posted on: Tue, 05/13/2008 - 05:57
Finding Safe Cosmetics

I have been concerned about toxins and carcinogens in the makeup I use, esp since reading the post in Matia's blog and watching a Dateline episode.  On Dateline, two families were featured, one who used all natural organic products and one who did not.  The wife/mom of the family who did not use natural products had 4x the amount of paraben in her system as the wife/mom of the natural product family.  That concerns me, because I know parabens have been found in tissues of those with breast cancer. 

Last Christmas my mom gave me some Bare Minerals makeup by Bare Escentuals to try.  I love it, but I was dismayed to see that the Mineral Veil (a translucent powder you apply over the foundation and blush) contains both propyl- and methly- parabens!!!!  I was shocked because my mother told me this is the only cosmetic company in the country to receive a seal of approval from the Cancer Society, something like that.  I was very disappointed.  Perphaps the amounts are minimal compared to other makeups, or they don't sink into the skin much because the foundation goes on underneath?  At least the foundation does not contain parabens. 

In any case, I am wondering what is safe and good to use?   I looked in the health food store and they carry mineral makeup but it is expensive and you only get half as much as you do with the Bare Minerals. 

icnot4me


Posted on: Mon, 06/30/2008 - 18:59 #1
Face creams
Just wondering if anyone has suggestions for safe face creams? For my body I am using Jojoba oil but definitely to oily for my face. I am early in treatment. Thanks Kristeen

Kriste

Posted on: Thu, 07/03/2008 - 03:59 #2
Hi Kriste For my face, I use

Hi Kriste
For my face, I use jojoba oil on most days, but I mix it with water in my hands first. It doesn't mix so great, but it spreads more lightly on my face (less grease) and the water makes it absorb better. I use powder (silk dust from Lumiere, a mineral cosmetics compagny) all over my face and that keeps me looking shine-free all day long.

I have a face cream from sircuit skin cosmeceuticals, but as far as safe for IC, I would need advice from an expert :)

here are the ingredients:Aqua (Water), Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Coco-Caprylate/Caprate, Squalane, Helianthus Annuus (Sunflower) Seed Oil*, Hexadecyl D-glucoside, Octadecyl D-glucoside, Cetearyl Alcohol, Cetearyl Glucoside, Cetyl Alcohol, Stearyl Alcohol, Glycerin, Simmondsia Chinensis (Jojoba) Seed Oil*, Titanium Dioxide, Glyceryl Monostearate, Cassia Angustifolia Seed Polysaccharide, Xanthan Gum, Ascorbic Acid (L), Benzyl Alcohol, Glucuronic Acid (D), Bisabolol (L-Alpha), Fructooligosaccharides (D-beta), Glucosamine HCL (D), Tocopherol (D-Alpha), Fusanus Spicatus (Australian Sandalwood) Oil, Vanilla Planifolia Oil. *USDA Certified Organic.

let me know if you discover a cream! :)

Posted on: Thu, 06/19/2008 - 13:21 #3
An Important Comment On Cosmetics
Hello Everyone! I am really glad everyone is exchanging information and helping one another. It is fantastic! Just want to make one comment. Please remember first idea behind choosing a product is health, second choice is: if it is healthy, is it OK for my IC. What stage in treatment am I? Many products are super healthy, but not safe for IC. For example, in natural products vitamin E is used as a preservative instead of synthetic preservative. This is great, EXCEPT, that vitamin E in people who are very symptomatic, will bring on symptoms really badly. Other natural ingredients that are healthy such as cocconut oil or shea butter or aloe, all of these can really aggravate a person until they are strong enough to not be affected by them. I do, in my lotion, have a few of these ingredients, but tey are carefully formulated and put against other ingredients to balance them out so as not to cause aggravation of symptoms. So, when thinking about using a new product, remember to think about this, and if you are early in treatment, please ask or tell me so I can be sure it is not affecting you in any negative way:) BTW: the Natren facial probiotic has vitamin E in it and is not good for everyone even though it is a good product. Matia
Posted on: Thu, 06/19/2008 - 14:29 #4
oops
Forgot to mention that the Natren facial creme also contains sorbitol. Matia
Posted on: Thu, 06/12/2008 - 06:24 #5
Thanks!
Neat idea! I have made on the spot treatments with the digestalac or megadophilus, a little water and couple drops of olive oil. But a mask with aloe sounds wonderful! thanks for sharing icnot4me
Posted on: Sat, 05/17/2008 - 10:18 #6
Yes, lots of choices :)

Hi there,

There are lots of safe cosmetic companies that make products without parabens, silicones, alcohol, etc.

For exemple, you can find mineral makeup at: Lumiere, Everyday Minerals, Signature, Pure Luxe, Meow, Aubrey Nicole, etc.. (there are so many new companies now since mineral makeup is so popular) You can buy these on the internet, Everyday MInerals even has a  free sample kit, you just pay the shipping. By the way, these are all much cheaper than Bare Minerals!

It depends where you live and what you health food store offers but other compagnies like: Ecco Bella, Dr. Hauschka, Lavera, Logona and Anne Marie Borlind have good ethics. They key is always to read the ingredients, just to be sure.

I hope this helps you a little :)

Posted on: Mon, 05/19/2008 - 18:26 #7
thank you

yes, this does help!!  I will look up these other brands online, thank you very much!

icnot4me

Posted on: Tue, 06/10/2008 - 19:08 #8
Epicuren and Substitutes
I don't know about actual makeup, but I had great success using Epicuren products for misturizers, masks, etc. AND THEN I learned that they are actually made by Nutren (the probiotic that Matia recommended for me for my long-term after care). Please consult with Matia before using Epicuren products as some contain Vitamin E which can be an issue for some. Here is a great mask that helped me through die off (which sometimes caused blemishes). Empty two full capsules of Digesta-Lac (non-diary) from Natren. Mix with several squirts of a very pure aloe vera gel (like Aubreys). Just enough to make a paste - not too runny. Apply and let it harden for 20 minutes then rinse. You will be AMAZED at how much this helps clear up the blemishes and how soft your skin will feel. FYI - you can play with the concentration of the powder to the aloe gel - there's no magic fomula. I had a great natural facialists who recommended I use Epicuren's Bulgaricum Probiotic Mask as I got toward the end of the die-off period with Matia. I noticed that the ingredients were supplied by Natren and backed into the recipe. This is a much cheaper way to get the benefits!

Natasha

Thriving Symptom Free

Posted on: Wed, 06/18/2008 - 11:45 #9
what to do with aloe vera
Natasha, thanks! That is a great idea! I got aloe vera gel from Lily of the Desert, but it has other things in it... Here are the ingredients: Certified Organic Aloe Vera Gel, PEG-33/PEG-8 Dimethicone/PEG-14, Tocopheryl Acetate (Vitamin E), Retinyl Palmitate (Vitamin A), Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C), Acrylates/C10-30 Alkyl/Acrylate Crosspolymer, Disodium EDTA, Phenoxyethanol, Sodium Hydroxide. That's a lot of stuff for a 99% pure aloe vera gel! Makes me regret I got it, who knows if I can still use this?
Posted on: Sat, 06/21/2008 - 16:44 #10
Aloe Vera
I too have bought Aloe Vera skincare claiming organic, 99.9% aloe vera and been astounded at the chemicals added. I decided the best thing is to only use aloe vera on my skin which is ok to eat. The one I've got is Lily of the Desert whole leaf gel. It does have citric acid and potassium sorbate described respectively as an antioxidant and a preservative and needs to be refrigerated after opening. Its a no no for Icers to eat but ok for skincare I think. I will seek out other brands when next I buy some to see if I can find one with pure aloe vera alone. (I guess u can use gel straight from the plant). It seems like a good principle to only put stuff on your skin which you can put in your stomach!
Posted on: Mon, 06/23/2008 - 19:44 #11
Aloe Vera
Update on my last msg! I used my lily of the desert edible aloe vera gel on my face and got an allergic reaction! cue red-faced janejones literally! It looked like sunburn and was hot but I washed it off with cold water and my face recovered after about an hour. So now having to rethink my principle of edible skincare!
Posted on: Tue, 06/24/2008 - 07:22 #12
Aloe
Aloe can be a little too much for some people even on the skin. Actually, ingested, aloe is really super bitter and cold as we say in Chinese medicine. It is not a great ingredient for those with IC symptoms in this kind of treatment. For those on medications, however, it can be useful bc its coldness soothes the hotness created by many of the meds. This is all Chinese terminology, which, normally I try to steer away from, but, if you can follow the thinking, it is interesting. So, you got redness on your face from the coldness and bitterness of the aloe. COld and bitter is like a "biting" quality, like frostbite. That can get created when there is already too much inflammation going on in the body, as is the case with IC.
Posted on: Wed, 06/25/2008 - 14:22 #13
Aloe
Thanks for that info. It is very interesting - I had not thought re the energetics of aloe as related to IC. I have been taking Aloe Vera capsules (with coral calcium etc) which are marketed as being helpful for IC so I need to rethink whether this is a good idea.