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porkchop87
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So I started to read up on leaky gut syndrome and I feel like I have all of the symptoms exactly. I do have bladder symptoms also. I know that they are very similar and either way Dr. B's treatment protocol works for healing both. I just wanted to see how many other people have all of those symptoms too or just the bladder symtpoms?
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What are you reading?

What are you reading?

Clueless
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Leaky Gut

I think most people with IC have symptoms of leaky gut.

flygirlsam
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IC is just one of many

IC is just one of many symptoms of a leaky gut. I think Matia believes that a leaky gut, for most, is the ultimate cause of the inflammation and bacterial translocation due to intestinal permeability. Read her dissertation, it will help clarify. 

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If the leaky gut is at the

If the leaky gut is at the root of our problems, and it's the same for everyone, then why does Dr. B put people on different protocols?  

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We all have different

We all have different protocols because we didn't all get our issues in the same way.  So since we got them in different ways, we need to reverse them in different ways.  Also each of us progresses at a different rate, so there isn't a one-size-fits-all solution.  Everyone's protocol changes to suit that person specifically.

If we are facing in the right direction, all we have to do is keep on walking. -Zen Proverb
 

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Well said Tinkerbell. We are

Well said Tinkerbell. We are all so different. We have different "excesses" and "deficiencies" affecting different organs in different ways. This is what makes IC so hard to treat and why western medicine fails so miserably. Because it treats everyone the same (not to mention treating only the symptoms in the bladder), but it fails to look at the whole picture of what has gone awry to lead to the IC. Really, read the dissertation and you'll get it. 

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It does make sense - BUT, I

It does make sense - BUT, I have lots of kids so although I do have Dr. B's dissertation, have not been able to find the time to read it yet. can anyone possibly summarise what 'IC' is and also what the treatment protocol focuses on? Thanks so much in advance. 

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Btw, I don't mean summarise

Btw, I don't mean summarise the whole thing (!) but just the notion that the immune system breaks down so bacteria and candida proliferate, causing inflammation etc..? My point is that if that is the same for everyone, then why different protocols? 

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we are unique

Because we are so totally unique. Our past physical health, what made us ill, our personalities, everything we are makes any dis-ease we have unique to us. So a one size fits all approach would never work. If we all have IC, why are our sysmptoms so vastly different? Because we are individual. Chinese medicine states that it is more important to know the person that has the disease, than know he disease itself. I think this is especially important when looking at IC. I speak regularly to many UK patients and it is amazing how different we all are symptomatically.
Different systems are affected to a greater or lesser degree in each of us, so have to be approached differently, and as we heal, adjusted according to how we are healing. It is a shifting dynamic that is moving constantly, and treatment has to keep up with that and help the body back into balance. 
Don't know if that will help or just raise more questions. I know how hard it is to get to grips with this. The book matia recommends, the web that has no weaver, explains it way better than i can!
 
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Vin- This is an enormous

Vin-
This is an enormous topic impossible to totally explain but here's one thought:
Everyone starts with the diet which begins to address the gut healing aspect of this treatment so we are all similiar in that way.

Vin43
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Deir and Nadia - thank you!

I had a 'lighbulb above the head' moment from both of your posts (and from a few others above too, so thank you). I now see why the diet is so important (i kind of knew before but now I really get it - thanks Deir) and I have ordered the Chinese medicine book (thanks Nadia). 

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"The Web That Has No Weaver"

"The Web That Has No Weaver" has been an amazing tool to help me understand the thoughts behind this process.  And every time something odd or new comes up, I look it up in that book and it totally makes sense to me then!  It's not exactly an easy read, but it's very useful and helpful!

If we are facing in the right direction, all we have to do is keep on walking. -Zen Proverb
 

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A literature review examines

A literature review examines the existing literature to discover the strengths and weakness in the literature. As well as demonstrating knowledge of existing research, a literature review should also identify gaps in the literature that the thesis as a whole is intended to fill. It provides the backdrop to, and reasons for, conducting the research.Correspondingly to the academic degree, the last phase of an academic thesis is called in Spanish a defensa de grado, defensa magistral or defensa doctoral in cases in which the university candidate is finalizing his or her licentiate, master's, or PhD program. Dissertation Proposal

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this is an excellent article

this is an excellent article about leaky gut
 
http://www.brighttots.com/Leaky_Gut_Syndrome

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