Sun, 08/31/2008 - 11:26
Why is yeast so difficult to get rid of there tricky. it's like it has a mind of it's own. I see them as little devils skating around my body. I can't stand it. It makes me so tired and my family doesn't understand there just like well you need to just get out. I feel over stimulated weak headaces and emotional. I just keep crying for nothing.IF I knew when it would be over I think I could handle it but the fact is no one can answer that so it just seems like it goes on and on forever. WHy is it so hard to get rid of and once you have systemic yeast do I always have to watch my fruit intake? I mean just a little bit seems to set it off.Fruit is healthy and I miss having it in moderation. Even things like sweet potatios instead of white or pasta and bread. I guess I don't fully understand it. I never seem satisfied with the food it's more like eating for survival now not something I enjoy. Anyway I needed to get that off my chest.
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Mon, 09/01/2008 - 11:35
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Nicole
Nicole - I can totally relate to feeling like you're eating for survival and that all the joy you used to get from eating is gone. I remember those days well. I remember when it seemed like I only had 10 foods to choose from and I was so bored with eating. What Jeanette says about yeast is interesting, it definitely took a long time for me to get control of my yeast issues. It's still in there, but it doesn't have such a powerful grip anymore. I can feel that my body is taking control and is slowing kicking the remainder of the yeast out of my body. I have been with Matia for over 3 1/2 years, I used to miss sweet treats so much, I would even dream about eating them. Those dreams are very infrequent now which I think is a sign that the yeast is going away. I also used to have a lot of random joint and nerve pain and was very fatigued, and that is almost gone too. For me, I think my body was so depleted and out of balance that it took a long time to get myself back in shape to fight the yeast off. It is a slow process, but like Jeanette says, it's become more of a mental journey than physical. I have come to appreciate and respect my body in a way that I never would have had I not taken this path. Hang in there, you will be able to eat fruit again and a lot of other healthy foods, but for now it's important to starve the yeast of the sugars that keep it thrives on. Carol
Sun, 08/31/2008 - 16:25
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Not sure, but my own thoughts
I think we all feel the same as you do! I know I do. There are many people who have different opinions. I will give you my own and keep in mind that I have no scientific data to back it up.
First off, think about the baking yeast you use in bread. It is in capsid form, which means the yeast is hibernating. Yeast is a very hardy animal. When it is under stressed conditions, it goes into hibernation and almost stops it's metabolism until it can get what it needs (i.e. sugar/water/warmth) If you look at the expiration date on the back of your yeast bottle, it is usually two years from purchase date. Coincidentally, that seems to be when many of Matia's patients are well on their way to health again. That yeast expires in the bottle after 2 years because it hasn't been used (given sugar/water/warmth)
With sugar, I think different people have many different levels of sensitivity. It is not just the yeast that responds to it in your body, but sugar also causes inflammation which may or may not make it more favorable for yeast to thrive. I think sugar exposure also throws off your immune system which is helping to fight yeast.
I think it is a very complex issue. Sugar also spikes insulin which in turn throws off all of the other hormones including reproductive hormones as well. Matia has told me in the past that yeast thrives in the presence of progesterone which is why some of us feel worse during the second half of our menstrual cycles. So, yet another thing that sugar does that may not directly feed yeast, but makes it a more favorable environment for it to live in. When I cut sugar out of my diet, my menstrual cycle regulated from a very irregular cycle to precisely every 30 days. When I cheated, my cycle returned back to a very irregular cycle.
I think the only way to successfully kill yeast off is to starve it out. People who have done stuff like Nystatin in the past said that yeast came back with a vengeance! I think this is because it killed off certain strains of yeast and then the hardiest strain of yeast went into hibernation. When the nystatin Rx runs it's course, the yeast can come out of hibernation and cause a really really bad infection that is even more difficult to get rid of. ARRGH! I definitely feel your pain.
The scariest thing that I have read about yeast is that it is implicated in causing things like MS, etc. What happens is that parts of the yeast DNA can actually get into your cellular DNA (for example your nerve DNA) and mix with it during normal replication. When your immune system is trolling around looking for foreign DNA, it "sees" this funky hybrid of your nerve cell DNA and yeasty DNA and starts attacking... the nerves.. hence you end up with MS, etc. This is a very hottly debated subject, but interesting none-the-less.
I struggle big time with sugar. It is very hard and the most difficult thing for me is the time it takes to make everything from scratch. What a drag! But, I am trying to get into it especially since my two children have IC, courtesy of ME! How's that for a legacy? I am actually having a lot of fun cooking and buying new appliances and teaching my kids how to cook too!
Hang in there Nicole. I have a many dark days. I have been with Matia over 2 years now and had I not cheated, I probably could have been done in 6 months, but this is more of a mental journey for me than a physical journey.
Jeanette
Sun, 08/31/2008 - 18:25
#4
Thanks Jeanette
Jeanette,
Thank you so much for your explanation on yeast. I hadn't known about the hormonal part. I normally feel best at the first few days of my cycle. I have a lot of nerve pain my self and some unexplained facial nerve pain too. It is most likely to be yeast. It really helps to hear about others take on it all especially when there are educated thoughts behind it all. I had been with Matia for almost 3 yrs and then We hit a wall and I started on my own and now I am back again. It's been about 2 yrs I am not sure on the time. My life is a little hazy I have empty spaces and poor memory due to my history of epilepsy.
At least your children have the pleasure of being healed early on and knowing what is best.They will be armed for the future and there children will grow up with the knowledge they need to be truly healthy.
As far as cooking goes I am totally bored with it. I am glad your having fun I used to but it seems I had to take a way more and more and that just makes me learn more about the chemistry of foods.
Sometimes I wish they had an allergy show on the food network. Well I just want to thank you so much it's so nice to feel like you relate.
It is a mental journey Mind body and soul.
sending healing thoughts
Nicole
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