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I am 11 weeks out from multi prolapse surgeries and am experiencing vaginal pain and discomfort. My surgeon thinks it is just spasms that will resolve in time and wants me to take ditroplan to relieve it for a month or more. I'm inclined not to take it. What symptoms should I be aware of that would disstinguish IC from bladder spasms.
Also, I am currently following the stage one diet to a "t" but am experiencing constipation. I drink aat least 64 ounces a day. I eat a lot of vegetables. I am eating chicken and meat regularly which is different for me but I am 5'7" and only 112 pounds so I need to get the protein. Any ideas what I could safely take to move things along?
Thanks for any help.
Pico
Hi Pico,
Hi Pico,
I'm sorry, but i don't have the knowlege to answer you. Although, something in you drove you to look outside of your conventional channels. maybe a trip to Dr. Brizman might be a good thing for you? if you've had bladder issues for quite ahwile, you may have landed on the answer to getting better.
Take Care,
Hi Pico
Hi Pico
I am sorry for your pain and discomfort. I can't speak for vulvodynia. But in the western medical context, IC is a diagnosis of exclusion. Meaning you have certain symptoms (Frequency, urgency, bladder pain, etc...) in the absense of certain signs (a positive urine culture) for some period of time (6+ weeks, according to the American Uralogical Association guidelines). These circumstances might lead a western doctor to deliver this diagnosis.
Assesing an underlying imbalance in the body which might lead to your symptoms, and developing an approach to correct it is what Dr. Brizman would do if you were in her care. You may as well fill out the intake form to see if you would be a good candidate to work with Dr. B. Throughout my adult life I have from time to time used chinese medicine and have NEVER regretted it. Dr. B in particular is highly knowledgeable about IC and VV.
As for constipation, I too found list 1 to be a bit constipating and things improved when I added in her protocol of herbs and probiotics, added vegetables at all 3 meals in the right proportions, and had one serving of raw veggies, as tolerated, per day. We are really not encouraged to offer advice on supplementation on this website, as Dr. B's protocol is highly individualized and there is no point in comparing and might be very unproductive or could make things worse.
I personally have used 1 400mg Twinlab magnesium cap with some water one hour before bedtime and have zero trouble with constipation. This was under Dr. B's recommendation for my particular case.
If we don't excel at health, the only other option is disease.
I wish I could amend my
I wish I could amend my previous post to say that I take one 400mg mag cap. Not 1400mg!!!!!!
If we don't excel at health, the only other option is disease.
Thank you everyone for your
Thank you everyone for your replies.
It was suggested that I fill
It was suggested that I fill out an intake form. Where Can I find that?
Oh- I was also wondering if
Oh- I was also wondering if an Epsom salt bath would be okay to take for constipation.
Thanks again.
I think the intake form is on
I think the intake form is on the Bomamed website (main website). You can always call the office in LA and they can answer a lot of questions about treatment for you.
If we don't excel at health, the only other option is disease.
Oh good. I have already
Oh good. I have already filled that out. Thank you.
Hi Pico - I've had minimal
Hi Pico - I've had minimal pain with my IC - except for a few horendous moments. What I can tell you, is in the beginning, even a bath could make it worse - the epson salts even worse still. The reason being that you're drawing toxins out of your body at a higher rate and may notice a symptom increase due to that - which is why Dr. B doesn't suggest that many of her patients should be using a sauna. Over time, I've been able to do this sort of thing - although, lately in the final stages of a horrible UTI - I do notice that a bath can even now irritate things - doesn't stop me from doing it as the other benefits seem to outweigh things.
I find that in order to eat
I find that in order to eat the right amount of protein in each meal I often resort to eating chicken at least once and sometimes twice a day. I also have eggs every other day and try to have red meat every other day. Could this be why I am getting so constipated?? does anyone else have this problem?
Man example of my diet is: for breakfast: 2 eggs cooked in butter, brown rice, and a large serving of cauliflower cooked in olive oil. For lunch: chicken thigh fried in olive oil, broccoli fried in olive oil, and a baked sweet potato and 1/2 of a cucumber. Dinner: small chopped prices of stew meat fried in olive oil, lettuce with chopped cucumbers, and cauliflower and red cabbage and potatoes sliced and tossed in olive oil and garlic powder and baked.
I take magnesium supplements each night. Dies the above diet sound reasonable ? I'm just dumbfounded over why I'm constipated. Unless I have a physical or medical problem, this diet should be okay I'd think. My appointment with Dr Brizman isn't until mid- February but the diet is otherwise some help to me do I'd like to stick with it. Someone advised I up the veggies, but I feel I am just over doing it on broccoli and cauliflower and cucumbers. Honestly, how many of them can you eat? Someone suggested the zucchini muffins - do you think that might help? I know it's unfair to expect anyone ti figure this out over a website, but if anyone sees an obvious thing I am doing wrong I would be glad to know it.
I was taking probiotics before and stopped them because iceasnt sure if they were acceptable on this diet. Maybe I will reintroduce them.
One thing I regularly ate before doing this dirt was an oatmeal breakfast with pears, ground flax seeds, almonds, and pumpkinseeds. I had no problems going every day then. But as they are not on diet I m not eating them any longer.
Thanks
I did not review well. Sorry.
I did not review well. Sorry. I have no idea how dirt got in there. Was not intended. Please forgive. I typed this on I- phone.
Pico, have you tried the warm
Pico, have you tried the warm water? Even two glasses?
Surprisingly, oatmeal, flax, pumpkin seeds are very cleansing and when you are trying to heal your digestive system from disbiosis, inflammation and leaky gut, these types of foods are the last thing to add in. It surprised me too, but as you go along you will see a logic to it.
If we don't excel at health, the only other option is disease.
Mimi,
Mimi,
Yes, I had 2 mug fulls of warm water. And unfortunately I just had a mug full of warm water with ground flax seeds. I'm so desperate to move things along. I hope it doesn't cause too much flare up. I drink at least 64 ounces of water a day. I just got back from my mile walk. Have you any more suggestions? My acupuncturist gave me a gentle laxative to take, but j don't want to get the opposite problem. It's not that my stools are hard, they are just taking a long time to move through me. I am really getting very concerned about this. My appointment with Dr Nrizman seems so far away.
Pico,
Pico,
You might need to add more raw vegetables to your diet, especially dark green leafy vegetables like lettuce or even raw broccoli if you're sticking to List 1. If you want to try stuff from list two, there a lot of dark green leafy veggies to choose from.
Lisa Ann
Lisa Ann
Thankyou for the suggestion. I'm on it right now!! I actually broke down and ate a pear hoping that might help. I remember that being one of the fruits you could eat on the ICnetwork site. I'm sure I'm in for a lot of pain because of it.
What is up with the postings becoming such long threads?
THE POOP SOUP! Please see
THE POOP SOUP! Please see cut and paste below from Dr. B - this is a very common struggle
Constipation has been a huge topic for a lot of people this week. And, when I say huge,
I mean the BMs ARENT! So, this is a big problem. If we are not pooping every day
AT LEAST once per day, we can't be healthy, and certainly, this process is compromised.
There are numerous reasons for being constipated, and, those issues need to be worked
out individually. But, in the long run the health should improve to the degree that
the BMS should be rolling by themselves and not dependent upon control. One of my
patients gave me this recipe a while back, and I thought I would bring it back to life
and hope it may help some of you having a hard time.
i use one bunch of celery, 1/2 a green cabbage and 3-6 broccoli (i use
the stems and heads - this is important) - this makes A LOT so i
freeze most of it. if she just wants to try it out she should cut it
in 1/2 or 1/4. also - for this much i use 1-3 potatos depending on
what i feel like and 1/2 - 1 onion based on the same.
it's simple - just broccoli, celery and green cabbage. depending on
her taste she can either sautee some onions and/or garlic and then the
veggis, add water, cook till soft and then blend or
just cook w/o sauteeing and then blend.
for a creamier consistency (but perhaps not as poop friendly?) she can
add a few potatos.
really she can do this with any high fiber veggis she enjoys.
also, i add olive oil and salt after i cook but they can be added during prep.
i must say, eatting spinach has really helped me. i find having a
salad or two (and i mean a BIG salad or two) a day with mixed greens,
spinach, celery, cucumber, broccoli and some turkey, chicken, fish or
hard boiled egg (and a bit of boiled potato or spelt croutons if all
is moving well) really really helps.
I only have purple cabbage on
I only have purple cabbage on hand. Do you think I could substitute it for the green cabbage?
Okay, this is probably going
Okay, this is probably going to be too much information. But I am getting anxiety over my bm woes. I go only every two days. But the stools are not hard, they are soft and some what thin. So I am now not sure whether having the "poop soup" is wise as it may cause more diareah like stools. I am not having a lot of spelt or rice in my diet as I was afraid they might slow down the transit time. Can anyone give me an example of what they eat in a day on the stage two diet who may also be experiencing slow transit time? I know its a lot to ask. But I think I am just thinking too hard about this and messing up my diet and my health.
Thanks
OOps. I meant stage one diet
OOps. I meant stage one diet!!!
Hi Pico!
Hi Pico!
I too have diificulty with this same thing. I only have BM every other day and is usually on the looser side, and TMI, usually can tell what I had to eat! Especially when it comes to veggies and grains like quinoa. I just recently started eating Spelt bread with my eggs and sautéed green and red cabbage. Or I have hot rice cereal with butter and steamed broccoli. I tried cutting out grains for a few months, didn't really change things, just made me less satisfied and always looking for something else to eat. It will get easier. Try not to stress too much over it! I will try to take my own advice on that as well! Good luck!
Thank-you cprince for your
Thank-you cprince for your welcome suggestions!
I wanted to let everyone know
I wanted to let everyone know that I figured out why I was so constipated. My acupuncturist had me on a Chinese herbal medication called v-statin to help ease the frequency of bathroom visits. I decided I'd rather deal with the frequency. Once I stopped the medication , I have befell doing better. The dry mouth has even stopped. It must have just been drying up my whole body.
Good news Sue!
Good news Sue!
Don't take anything else till you go to Dr. B. Nothing. Nada.
If we don't excel at health, the only other option is disease.