Mood and Prbiotics

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i think I have posted many time on probiotic and their effects on mood. I thought I would post a lighter article before the next provoking one just for a change in the flow. This is nice and succinct.http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/04/150414083718.htm. Having said this-many things effect mood and depression. In fact this past year I have interacted with several patients having profoundly positive effects with herbal and supplemental medicines and their moods. This last week a patient dropped her medicine (with ehr prescribing dr of course) because she felt the herbs worked far better. I think increasingly, research is proving the immense effect of the condition of the gut on the mind.

 

 

 

 

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headley.patty@gmail.com's picture
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I have had anxiety for 35 years and always thought there was an underlying reason other than the fact I was mentally ill. It all started clicking when I became Boaz's patient and read your dissertation.  My first experience with it was about 6 months after I had started birth control pills which I now know were responsible in disturbing the gut. Many other times it would hit after I had been sick and on antibiotics. I was so very thankful to at least know there was a reason. I have had it once really badly after we tried me on SF and had to back it off but the Rhodiola has been very helpful. The anxiety for me at times was harder to deal with than the pain. I am VERY grateful I have found a doctor who understands and is helping me with all aspects of this disease. 

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drbrizman

I am glad it is helping you Pattie! Basically, the way it is viewed in the Chinese paradigm is that there is an emotion for every organ excess imbalance and deficient imbalance. And that is factored into the over all picture. For example, anxiety is very different from depression. Or, anxiety occuring with depression is very different than the two alone. Another example, rage is the other exptreme of depression. One is a deficient condition of the liver and the other is an excess. So as docs or practitioners of CM, these are clues we listen for to know which organs need different kinds of attention with different kind of herbs or supplements. In WM, they are looking at it with less differentiation, but, I still think that it is wonderful that the connection between the gastrointestinal system and the emotions is outstanding, and it is through that route all of these things are effected.

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I so agree. The very first thing the WM doctor did was put me on drugs. I became pregnant with my first child and stopped them. The anxiety came and went over those 35 years but I made the decision not to ever take the drugs again. I just always tryed to work through it. Its just so sad to know I suffered so many years when I could have been helped. I am glad they are starting wise up about some things but they have a very long way to go still. 

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cprince

Patty, I had the same reaction to BC. The BC and antibiotics definitely tipped me over the edge into extreme anxiety. I wasn't even on BC for more than 6 months. My gut was so unwell when I started it though, I can see now why even the short course led me even further into pit of despair. I already had chronic yeast overgrowth before starting birth control and terrible migraines. My body couldn't even do the functions it was supposed to be doing and I addressed my concerns about all my symptoms with my Dr. I don't know if it was just a scare tactic or truly what she believes, but said it was more risky for me to continue without a period then worth about the side effects of BC. Even after getting home I read the pamphlet several times and called the office and asked to speak to a nurse as I had so many risk factors, but assured me it was better to try and would address the more serious side effects if they became an issue. I should have listened to my gut instinct. Only 6 months later I had never felt closer to death and anxiety off the charts. It did one thing for me, help me relate to my most anxiety stricken patients. Unfortunately though they are heavily medicated with most still unable to function. As my overgrowth continues to dwindle and my gut slowly heals I can feel the changes. I still have major anxiety and depression thoughts to scary levels sometimes, but I can say I have been able to power through more very overwhelming situations and continue to work fairly functional with the support of this treatment. Dr.'s are so quick to want to prescribe an easy fix, but ask those on the antidepressants how they are really doing. It is so sad! I feel very fortunate I was stubborn enough to not take everything my MDs were handing out, but I can completely understand why people are so quick to try. It's an unbelievably scary place to feel like you are losing total control and there is no way out. Feeling thankful for a little happier gut. I know the probiotics and healthy clean diet has helped me tremendously.

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Yes CPrince. I know so many people onanti-anxiety drugs and they have all these side effects and then they constantly change the drugs because they become ineffective. I try to talk to them about at least getting off sugar but it amazes me how that is to big a sacrifice and they would rather just take another pill. I'm glad I was never a big pill popper but wish I had known the effects of all the anti-biotics I took over all the years. My daughter is a nurse and I cringe every time my 6 yr old grandson takes them. I have tried to get her to at least put him on some pro-biotics. We place so much trust in WM and it certainly has its place but I wish they would concentrate more on preventive measures.