A few things I am thinking about

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It is hard to "keep positive"

 

 

And actually I don't think that in itself is a goal. I truly do NOT believe you can 'think" yourself well OR sick. I started this protocol absolutely convinced that I would be better within a year. Herre we are almost 3 years later and I am still struggling but hoping I am gaining momentum and always keeping the little spark of hope lit within that tells me I CAN and WILL be healthy someday.

 

 

I was thinking about this after a little conversation with another patient. Dr  B has said she has had many patients who did not even believe in Chinese Medicine but did this as a last resort and still got well. My point is- we don't have ultimate control over the extent or speed of our healing. it is too much pressure to think we need to be positve every minute or else!!  We can only follow the protocol and approach each day with as much gratitiude and peace we have in us at the time, making the most of the day we have NOW.

 

Hope this makes sense!

"worry is like a rocking chair, it keeps you busy but you don't get anywhere"

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Mimij67

Having a belief  that postive thinking or negative negative thinking will control an outcome is a false dichotomy. That is: "thinking postively is the only way to heal, and thinking negatively means I will not. Therefore, I must think positively." When actually it is more important to simply bring mindfullness to whatever it is that I am thinking so that I can allow my feelings and not be ruled by them or caught up in them. If I am having a lot of negative or obsessive thinking where I am perseverating about the same things over and over, well then I think this is a useful thing to notice. Noticing without judging is a path to freedom from unhelpful thoughts that take over my thinking. In quieting these thoughts by releaseing them or not dwelling on them, I have a calmer mind. I believe it is possible to create new outcomes (not specific ones, just ones not expected) by not putting all my energy and thoughts into the same place all the time. 

If we don't excel at health, the only other option is disease.

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deir

Hey MImi- Are you disagreeing with me? I might not be reading right because I am in a crap load of pain today. LOL
 
Anyway, maybe I didn't write my thoughts clearly. My point is basically the same as yours.
 
I was writing to encourage those patients who may be feeling like the need to keep a positive thru line gong all the time in order to get well. There is a lot of that type of thinking floating around the culture.
 

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Mimij67

LOL I think we agree :) Feel better!
 

If we don't excel at health, the only other option is disease.

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deir

:) Thanks!

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Vin43

Hi Deir,
I know exactly what you mean. 'Keeping positive' is an extra pressure that is just not needed. I found that this pressure came from others too, which was just horrible. When I was extremely ill, others around me decided that I was not being positive enough and just kept on banging on about that. In fact, what was happening is that the physical problems were outweighing the psychological by far. I was acutely aware that I was in the grip of very physical suffering and already knew that keeping positive would not make a slightest jot to the physical illness AT THAT TIME. As such, I had no choice but to ride it out and see what happened. I did not know that I would feel better and, like many of Dr. B's patients, I definitely did not believe it.  I just existed (barely) for a very long time. I am able to 'do positive' now that I am feeling better. Don't put that extra pressure on yourself. This is SO physical but your body will change. Nothing stays the same. It may take until you reach peri-menopause, it may take some other physical event but things WILL change for you. Keeping positive? I think that we are able to do it only at certain times.  You do what you have to do at that particular time. However, I also understand what Mimi means. Being mindful and having awareness of both our positive and negative thoughts is an important skill and can be very useful. If you catch yourself feeling very negative and are able to turn it around... well... that’s a great skill to have (but I could never do it when the physical was so overwhelming). I used to see an acupuncturist who was a Buddhist master (trained since childhood - not sure what the actual title is) and he had trained himself to overcome physical pain with mindfulness. His colleague was able to treat people using electricity running through the body (I kid you not) which he generated via his mind and own body (ask my husband as he went too. It was pretty impressive - and real). This CAN be done and is incredibly inspirational when you achieve it (I guess) but we mere mortals do need to stop laying the pressure on ourselves (and personally, I wish others would do). You WILL get better (because the vast majority of people with IC do, so the stats bear this out) but in the meantime, lighten your load. 

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DLFox123

So, I'm adding my own two cents.  For those that do know - forgive me for repeating myself.  For the last 15 years I've battled with illnesses that could have well ended my life.  (I am once again told that I am "cured)  When I first got ill,  I was so sure that it was the end, I moved my family back home so that my daughter, then ten, would have her Grandma to raise her.  I let what is now my ex buy a fourthy thousand dollar boat - thinking that he could use my life insurance to pay for it.  I also let him sell a piece of property that I loved and wanted to build on.  If negative thinking ended your life I would be good and dead.  What I do truly think that negative or positive thinking does for you - is make a crappy situation more or less tollerable.  I spend far too much of my time thinking that the glass is part empty when someone else, much wiser than myslef, has the same amount of water in their glass - but sees it half full......as the old saying goes.

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deir

Thanks Denise- You always manage to make a terrible situation sound a little funny- surely, you can't be all negative! THANK YOU!
 
The other night, my husband said, "Is this your water- the one that is half full?" I laughed and said- "Can't be mine- mine must be the half empty one!"
 
I think it comes down to this for me- each day, I wake up and try my best to llive my life on its own terms, not what I wish it was.  Sometimes, I am sad, sometimes I am hopeless but still, I take my hebs, eat my food and keep going.
 
I am sure there is a cellular effect from being downright nasty and hopeless and miserable and being in that state is something I try to avoid! Other than that extreme, I just don't think I am in complete control over my healing. If I did, I would feel like a complete failure and I know that isn't true.
 

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deir

please ignore my typos- I am actually an intelligent person! LOL

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DLFox123

Deir,
"live my life on it's own terms", you give me such pause for thought - Thank you.  I'm going to sit with this for awhile.
Take Care