Two Sides Of The Soy

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All of you in treatment know that I do not advocate the use of soy in the diet. Soy can insight a tremendous amount of pain. There is more to the soy story when it comes to IC, but ths article is a great one that gives some insight as to why soy is not what it might be cracked up to be for all people:
http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/soy.htm

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nicole's picture
nicole

I always felt that this product was pushed into the market too fast much like Saccharin ,aspartame, and splenda. I wonder what the  protein content is per dried gram of soy milk.? What brand sugestions of formulas would you sugest people use when they can not breast feed? I always wonder about caustrum? Do the formulas include that becuase there not getting it from the mother and that would be bad for the immune system.

drbrizman's picture
drbrizman

I never recommend soy milk. As for formula I always recommend lipil Enfamil milk based. It is the ONLY formula I have found that is not based on corn syrup! I think there is one other that I am not thinking of right now, but they al have so much corn syrup and most start with that ingredient. And, I would never give an infant soy formula. Most of the time it is presumed that they are allergic to the milk base, but I would bet that that is not the problem at all, but rather all of the corn syrup and other junk in the formula. 

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Clueless

What about Goat's milk for infants?  I used to drink goat's milk.  The person who owned the farm where I bought it told me that parents who had infants that did not tolerate any kind of milk or formula came to her farm to try goats milk and that the infants did fine on it.  She said it is alkaline and the fat globules are smaller and easier to digest that cow's milk.  She said that goats milk does not promote the allergic reaction that cow's milk does.  They did pasteurize it for infants though.  When goats milk is fresh and handled properly, it is really good and doesn't taste much different than cow's milk.  The consistency was about the same too.

drbrizman's picture
drbrizman

I think it is an option that is a great one if. But, we need to remember all alkaline is not good either. pH needs to be down the middle, and if using goat milk in a formula vitamins might be needed bc baby formula is supplemented with vitamins that are crucial for babies:) 

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Clueless

I thought a healthy body could regulate the acid/alkaline balance?  I'm not sure how alkaline goat's milk is.  I believe cow's milk is acidic?  I wonder what the pH of breast milk is?  Perhaps the pH of breast milk varies depending on what the mother eats?  The foods we eat are not all perfectly pH balanced, so the body must adjust the balance itself.  I do agree that an infant might need extra vitamins if using a formula other than breast milk.

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icnot4me

This was a good article, thank you for posting it.  I forwarded it to my mom, she used to eat a lot of soy.  she said it helped with her hot flashes but made her so constipated she had to quit eating it after a couple years.I had very loose stools as an infant and was put on a soy formula for a couple years--I ended up going the other way and have been constipated ever since.  Its it all from the soy?  seems hard to believe it could have such a long term affect. 

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drbrizman

to know how to answer this precisely. But, it is my belief that this kind of thing could absolutely have influenced you very negatively and set your body up for weakness and imbalance in the years that followed. So much of our health is dependent upon the first few years of our lives both mentally and physically. The digestive tract is forming in those first two years. It is void of all the commensal "probiotic" bacteria in the beginning and the tract needs to become plenished. In any case, parents only do what they believe is best, and I am ertain that your parents were no different. We cannot go back and undo what has been done, but can only change what we are doing today and going to do tomorrow!

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icnot4me

Oh yes, I don't blame my parents in the least.  I believe they were following a doctor's orders in giving me the soy.   I just find this very interesting b/c I was born with thrush, had loose stools, and then followed two years of soy during which time I became so constipated it was a daily battle to get me to go.  It was an awful time for my parents and myeslf, I actually remember it.  This is off the subject, but what oils are safe to cook with for people with ic?  I've read that heat damages olive oil and makes it toxic so I want to use something else but I know vegie oil is out, and canola as well?

drbrizman's picture
drbrizman

avocado oil is a great one if you are on list #2 or above! It is heat resistant.

icnot4me's picture
icnot4me

Never knew there was such a thing as avocado oil, do you have to get that in a health food store?  If it is expensive, is there an alternative?thanks

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drbrizman

Yes, at the healthfood store and I am not sure about the price. I don't do the shopping in my family, my husband does. Sometimes if you buy a cse of something though they will give you a great discount, ask!!

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janejones

Anyone know if coconut oil is ok to cook with for ICers? I've read it has good properties but is avoided wrongly because it has saturated fat.

drbrizman's picture
drbrizman

Coconut Oil is definitely a NO for those with IC. It is much too strong of an antifungal. Which, is counterintuitive, I know, but it can cause HIGH pain.